Joel Salcido may run in some fast poetry circles, but he’s no stranger to producing top-notch prose, either. After kicking Spillers No. 4 off in high style, the Arizona State University MFA candidate talks to us about the social dynamics facing writers of color, the importance of having an Angeleno drive you around Los Angeles, and why he views pigeons as more than messengers. (Note: this episode is for mature audiences, only.)

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